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Harry Potter-lore Speculation

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There are tons of theories out there, but these are mine. Others might have independently come up with the same thoughts. The worlds/realms that fiction creates are fairly constrained. I wouldn't be at all surprised if others have thought of the same things as I have.

This post is a living document. I add to this when I think of it instead of posting a new entry for each one. Sometimes, there may be things that don't flow because I've added to it over time.

For reference, I've read all four books and follow The Rumour Mill® very closely.

Voldemort's Maternal Family

I somehow get the feeling that the Evanses (Lily Potter's maternal family) might be related to the Riddles ... somehow. The Evanses and the Riddles may be blood relations or just family friends or there may be some kind of drama between the two.

We haven't found out yet what Voldemort's mother's surname is. We know that his middle name, "Marvolo", is in honour of his maternal grandfather, but I had the impression that "Marvolo" is his grandfather's first name - it just sounds more like a first name in the Harry Potter world. Maybe because "Marvolo" doesn't sound native to the UK...

If Tom is the Heir of Slytherin then it might make sense that his maternal family side surname is "Slytherin". But in British culture, an heir can be the son or daughter of a son or daughter. It's not like Chinese culture where an heir can only be the son of a son (if there are no sons, there is no heir). If it were only sons, then you'd always have the family name as a confirmation of lineage. But as soon as you put a daughter in there, you don't have that obvious association.

So, there's an off-chance that Voldemort's maternal family could be the Evanses(!!!) Perhaps they decided to turn their back on the Wizarding world after how Voldemort's mother was treated by the Riddles (or it could have been for a multitude of reasons and this could have been just one of them).

It may be a huge coinky-dink, but huge coinky-dinks have been happening all over the place in the series.

Harry is a Gryffindor-Slytherin Mix

Supposing Voldemort's maternal family is the Evanses. There have been theories that theories that Harry is a descendant of Godric Gryffindor - "only a true Gryffindor can summon Godric's Sword." Supposing that is true as well.

Then Harry is a Gryffindor from his father's ancestry and a Slytherin from his mother's side. This might be why he has qualities of both, which is why the Sorting Hat had difficulty sorting him and even stands by its initial statement that he would have done well in Slytherin House.

The Ties That Bind

It seems like, in the Harry Potter Universe, malevolent Magic and Spells don't work the same way when cast on family/blood relations.

Harry's and Voldemort's wands were Brother Wands. They were made out of two feathers from the same pheonix. They won't do what you expect when they go head to head in duel.

As an extension to that reasoning, then, if Voldemort is a blood relation to Harry, it would make sense that Voldemort's "Avada Kedavra" on Harry backfires and actually works to bind their lives and destinies even tighter than before.

But, why he's successful in killing Lily, then, I don't know. Of course, others have speculated that Lily is not actually DEAD dead. JKR says we will never see a live Lily or James Potter, but that doesn't rule out that she can be an Animagi stuck in animal form or a ghost or something.

Snape & Lily

Another theory I have is that Snape was in love with Lily Evans when they were still students at Hogwarts, but Lily fell in love with James. That's why Snapes hated James Potter, Remus Lupin, Sirius Black and Peter Pettigrew. Or that's why Snapes hated James Potter even more than he originally did. And now, he has to be reminded of that every time he sees "a little James" running around.

Who will die in Book 5?

JKR announced that there would be a major death in Book 5 - a "fan" of Harry's will die.

JKR wants to make an impact. Whether it's to solidify her celebrity status after the series ends or the more philanthropic purpose of exposing youngsters to death and learning to deal with it, it needs to make an impact on the audience.

It needs to be someone prominent and not someone that the audience might have indifferent, mixed or negative feelings toward. That just wouldn't work right.

That rules out Dobby (this manipulative, meddling, passive aggressive little rat needs to get turfed), Ginny Weasley (she really hasn't done much to make us really feel either way about her), Bill, Charlie & Percy Weasley, the Creevy brothers, Severus Snape, Sybil Trelawney, all three of the Dursleys, any of the Malfoys.

JKR also said that writing this death was "difficult for her". I think this rules out Dumbledore. I don't think killing off Dumbledore would be particularly difficult. There's a certain peace that comes with the death of an elderly person, that counters the sadness and sense of loss. They've had a great life and touched many people along the way, everyone loved them, their great achievements will always be remembered. Everyone thinks, "well, maybe it was his/her time to go".

It would be a much more heart-wrenching for someone young or in their prime and well loved by all, to die. It's seen as "needless", "unfair" and just plain sad that fate/destiny would take someone that held so much promise. I was in tears at Cedric Diggory's death at the end of Goblet of Fire. Not so much at the time that he was killed, but when Dumbledore said at the year end feast, "Remember Cedric... Remember Cedric Diggory".

This leaves (in order of impact): Hermione Granger, Rubeus Hagrid*, Ron Weasley, Arthur & Molly Weasley, Fred & George Weasley, Sirius Black.

* - I have mixed feelings about Hagrid. I know he's well-loved and was a great help to Harry just before his first year, but why the hell did he leave Harry at King's Cross Station without explaining how to get to Platform 9¾?! If the Weasley's didn't come along, Harry would never have figured it out.

Hagrid just strikes me as very irresponsible and unreliable. He is irresponsible with creatures - buying baby Norbert, spilling beans to the Quirrel in disguise who sold the Norbert egg to him and leaving the children to clean up after him. He's has a serious discretion problem. And at times, I just think he's plain dangerous.

I'm not the least bit surprised I feel this way. I identify with Minerva McGonagall the most, out of all the characters. =)

Mandrakes

I don't know for sure, but I think Mandrakes are based on Ginseng in real life. Ginseng roots have always looked like little people to me. =) poufywerewolf pointed out to me that the Mandrake plant (Mandragora officinarum) was the basis for the Mandrake plant in Harry Potter. But when I Googled for images of it, the Ginseng plant looked more like little people to me.

This has absolutely no bearing on anything, just something that occurred to me.

Massive book and movie spoilers as well as future storyline speculation in the TALKREAD...


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bride
Nov. 24th, 2002 05:48 pm (UTC)
Yeah, they are Brother Wands. They were made from two feathers from the same pheonix.

Harry and Voldemort are connected somehow. The wands chose them, so that's part of the evidence.
sertrel
Nov. 24th, 2002 08:27 pm (UTC)
That actually makes a LOT of sense, in light of another fact...

Ever wonder why Harry has to spend every summer with his adoptive parents? After all, the Weasleys or even Hermione's family would no doubt be happy to put him up for the summer, especially because they know how obnoxiously Harry is treated. In either book 3 or 4, it is explained as Dumbledore requires Harry to spend a certain amount of every summer with the Evanses. Why is that? Why is he safer in Muggle society?

I theorized that there was a charm, something Dumbledore had set up, why Harry had to go live with that horrid family even as Hagrid and Maggie both winced at the idea. I thought that it was important for Harry to live within Muggle society, some charm that protected him through Muggle bloodline... but that makes even more sense if the Muggle bloodline is connected to Tom Riddle's Muggle family...
bride
Nov. 24th, 2002 08:41 pm (UTC)
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Ever wonder why Harry has to spend every summer with his adoptive parents?

Harry could easily stay at Hogwarts' over the summer.

Dumbledore said that "There is ancient magic at Privet Drive"... or something like that.

Remember Mrs. Figg from Book 1? That old woman who smelled like cabbage, who took care of Harry when the Dursley went on vacation without him? She kept showing Harry nothing but slides (or something boring like that).

That's Arabella Figg. She's a Witch and one of Dumbledore's most trusted friends - one of "the old crowd" and one of the first to be invited into The Order of the Pheonix. JKR said that we're going to get to know Mrs. Figg a whole lot better in the fifth book.

Still, I also speculate that there's more to Privet Drive than Arabella Figg alone. The fact that "there's ancient magic at Privet Drive" makes me think that Dumbledore has already weighed the consequences of Harry being mistreated versus the dangers if he weren't there.

but that makes even more sense if the Muggle bloodline is connected to Tom Riddle's Muggle family...

Right =) Blood is thicker than water.

Maybe in the Harry Potter Universe, malevolent Magic and Spells don't work the same way when cast on blood relations.

Harry's and Voldemort's wands were Brother Wands. They were made out of two feathers from the same pheonix. They won't do what you expect when they go head to head in duel.

As an extension to that reasoning, then, it would make sense that Voldemort's "Avada Kedavra" on Harry/Lily backfires and actually works to bind their lives and destinies even tighter than before.
bride
Nov. 24th, 2002 09:03 pm (UTC)
Further thoughts.

If you think about it, Harry really isn't mistreated that badly. He is fed, he is clothed, he does have a bed and a warm place to sleep. As for the Dursleys' nastiness,

1) the story is from a child's point of view, so injustice against the protagonist is going to be exaggerated. In reality, I suspect it's not that bad. But if JKR wrote it as reality, it would be really boring.

2) Harry seems to deal with the insults and nastiness from the Dursleys really well. He has no emotional baggage when he gets to Hogwarts, he doesn't act out and generally doesn't really exhibit behaviour of an abused child.

3) the Dursleys seem to be 100% talk when it came to mistreating Harry. In all practicality, they took care of Harry just fine.

4) I would say that Dobby pulled more abuse on Harry than the Dursleys did - the manipulation, stealing his mail, sealing the Platform 9¾ portal, sending the bludger after Harry, etc.

I thought that it was important for Harry to live within Muggle society,

Perhaps Dumbledore thought it was important for Harry to live in Muggle society as well. For reasons other than protection, ie. a "character building" thing for Harry to be brought up with an understanding of Muggles. I know that Dumbledore thought it was ironic that Harry was such an icon in the Wizarding world and his only next-of-kin are the most Magic-phobic folks possible.

BTW => with the Evanses

It's the Dursleys. Petunia Evans is married to Vernon Dursley.
yduras
Nov. 25th, 2002 07:03 am (UTC)
For that matter, it seems the way you spot a wizard child is that he makes funny things happen when angry or upset.

It could be argued that the Dursley's habit of, say, making him stay in his room when company are around, started due to Harry's habit of making thing vanish, or levitate, or explode... (He did drop his cousin into a snakepit after all...)
bride
Nov. 25th, 2002 10:02 am (UTC)
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Yes.

And the Dursleys just didn't love Harry as much as Dudley to begin with. Which is totally understandable. He's a nephew, not a son. And even if he were a son, a lot of parents subconsciously love their first child more.

Flip through the photo albums of any family with more than one child - especially if the children are the same sex. I'm willing to bet money that there will be at least double the number of photos (if not, more) of the first child than the other children.
sertrel
Nov. 26th, 2002 07:14 am (UTC)
I'm willing to bet money that there will be at least double the number of photos (if not, more) of the first child than the other children.

Ouch! I think that there are far more influences at play here than just rank in age. It also depends on photo opportunities, etc. I'll have to check photo albums when I return, but I think after all of us were born (because using pre-birth timeframe is just not fair), most images would be group pictures rather than just one alone...
sertrel
Nov. 26th, 2002 07:16 am (UTC)
It's the Dursleys.

Oops. I knew "Evans" didn't seem like the correct last name, didn't have the dreary feel I had associated with them. I plead ignorance based on distance from the books. (And although I already saw the 2nd movie, I missed the segment within the Dursley's home, by the time I started watching, they had already gone to the Weasley home.)
bride
Nov. 26th, 2002 08:57 am (UTC)
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Heh =)
yduras
Nov. 25th, 2002 06:57 am (UTC)
I somehow get the feeling that the Evanses (Lily Potter's maternal family) might be related to the Riddles ... somehow. They're both Muggle families with knowledge AND disdain for Wizards. I find that a very interesting coinky-dink. Most Muggles don't even know about the Wizarding world.

Actualty, Lily's parents are described as having been thrilled to death with having a witch in the family (rather like Hermione's parents are happy with her). It was her sister who hated her, which seems to be rooted in jealousy because the folks liked Lily better.

bride
Nov. 25th, 2002 09:54 am (UTC)
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Lily's parents are described as having been thrilled to death with having a witch in the family

Er... you're right...
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