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Temperatures and Referenda

weather: sunny
outside: 1°C
mood: cold

<insert whine about how cold it is in Vancouver>

<prepare for barrage of comments telling me that I don't know the meaning of the word "cold" until I've spent a winter in Calgary/Winnipeg/Ontario/Siberia/etc.>

So, it looks like we are going to have a referendum plebiscite on whether or not we want the 2010 Winter Olympics in Whistler, BC. I just read this morning that they're promising to make this question clear and concise. HA! Fat chance.

The referendum question should be as follows:


[ ] Yes           [ ] No


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Nov. 27th, 2002 10:08 pm (UTC)
Temperature conversion
20 °F ~= -6.5 °C
1 °C ~= 34 °F
50-60 °F ~= 10-16 °C
Nov. 27th, 2002 11:35 am (UTC)
Those losers don't know what cold is!

Edmonton on the other hand..... :)
Nov. 27th, 2002 12:01 pm (UTC)
Heheh =)
Nov. 27th, 2002 12:11 pm (UTC)
It's cold. Very. Very. Cold.

Have you ever heard of a treat called tanghulu? (糖葫芦) It's the only thing that made the winters bearable in Harbin.
Nov. 27th, 2002 12:30 pm (UTC)
I've heard of them and I've seen them on Chinese soaps a lot, but I've never tried one.

I'll have to go visit you in Harbin one day.
Nov. 27th, 2002 12:46 pm (UTC)
Ohhh! They are sooo nummy! Hee!

You are so going to Harbin when I'm there. I'm pretty right in saying you weren't too keen on Beijing, right? You'd probably dig Harbin- a lot smaller, and more "down-home". It's like the mid-west of China, with a lot of random Russian influence.
Nov. 27th, 2002 12:55 pm (UTC)
weren't too keen on Beijing, right?

No, I wasn't... which is kinda unfortunate. I think it was just because I didn't know any hip, young University kids. We went to visit old family friends. =)
Nov. 27th, 2002 01:00 pm (UTC)
Yeah, honestly, I've never really experience Beijing, only for a couple days on my pre-packaged tour thing I did in high school. When I was in China, I stayed in Harbin and visited my friend in Hangzhou/Shanghai.

I was just looking at the CET program I want to do- I may end up doing it in Beijing and not Harbin, but I"m definetely going up there to visit. Either way, you should go back. I'm sure your family would be happy if you did.

(that was a little poke there, I couldn't resist :P)
Nov. 27th, 2002 01:16 pm (UTC)
I really should go. It's one of those things on My Life's To Do List =)

And I'd actually rather not go to see them when I go back because they would put me up at their apartments or pay for my hotel, all meals, admission to museums/parks, all transportation, etc. I know what they make and I couldn't do that.

I'd rather not tell them and then spring a phone call on them when I get there. And I think, deep down, they'd appreciate that a little more.

Kinda sad, but *shrug* what can we do? Image is everything to them, they'll go into debt just to show us that they're well off enough to do stuff like that. It's just bad.
Nov. 27th, 2002 01:27 pm (UTC)
I figured it would be, I mean, you have a one up on anyone who'd want to go to China- you know the language.

Yeah, I know, I always had that problem too. When I was there, I was making 5000 RMB a month, which, is pretty freaking good. My friend Mary would always 'invite' me, and end up paying. I couldn't stand it, because she made 1/5th of what I did! I felt horrible!
Nov. 27th, 2002 01:39 pm (UTC)
Oh... you have to learn Fighting-For-The-Bill Fu. =D

I was just talking about this over in asam. =)
Nov. 27th, 2002 01:50 pm (UTC)
So right, so right.

I'll need to learn Saying No To People Who Want Me To Teach Their Kid's English- Fu next!
Nov. 27th, 2002 12:53 pm (UTC)
Have we forgotten already how stinkin' hot it was last summer? BLEH. I'll take the cold any day. The better to get all warm and snuggly with. I keep turning the heat down because I want to spend the night snuggling with my honey and not throwing the covers off. I do dislike having to scrape my car off and risk slipping on ice, but you win some you lose some, right?

I'd say it's about 1 degree C here too. Maybe a little colder.
Nov. 27th, 2002 12:58 pm (UTC)
I do dislike having to scrape my car off

Your house didn't come with a two-car garage? In any case, if you're parking it outside, put flattened cardboard on it. That keeps the frost from building up on the windshield and rear windows. The side windows will have to be scraped... =P
Nov. 27th, 2002 01:05 pm (UTC)
It does have a 2 car garage... we have 1 car in it, and junk in the other half. I think most people need a 2.5 car or 3 car garage for the 2 cars and their stuff, and to have some room to maneuver around the cars. I find it difficult to squeeze around Bill's car to get in the driver's seat. I find that more of a pain than spending a minute scraping my car off while the car warms up.
Nov. 27th, 2002 01:16 pm (UTC)
Ah... I see.
Nov. 27th, 2002 01:30 pm (UTC)
put flattened cardboard on it

Good, good idea. This is the first winter I'm driving and have to park outside. You're such a useful gal to have as a friend! (You do know when I'm writing my Chinese essay for my application to CET, you will be helping. Watch out!)
Nov. 27th, 2002 01:43 pm (UTC)
You do know when I'm writing my Chinese essay for my application to CET, you will be helping. Watch out!

Hehehe... I'll do what I can, but it's really the blind leading the blind, here =D
Nov. 27th, 2002 01:46 pm (UTC)
Yeah, sure whatever. You do remember writing an entire journal entry about Computer Programming, yeah? I wouldn't be able to understand that in Chinese, let alone English.
Nov. 27th, 2002 02:42 pm (UTC)
Re: Flattened Cardboard

Another thing, put a brick or something heavy on top so it doesn't get blown away or dragged away by nocturnal critters. =)
Nov. 27th, 2002 02:27 pm (UTC)
I think it would definitely be cool to have the Olympics near by.
Nov. 27th, 2002 06:10 pm (UTC)
Odd... from what I heard this morning at a meeting I attended, the referendum is off due to how much it would cost to run. Of course, that's not RIGHT from Larry's mouth, but pretty close.
Nov. 27th, 2002 06:24 pm (UTC)
I heard on the radio this morning, that it was due to both cost and that the process was legally binding in some way (and bureaucratic too). Instead, they are going to have a "plebiscite", which apparently is much easier to handle. I've also heard that either the provincial or federal government is threatening to sue the city if they nix the bid (for all the money that has been put forward already).

Funny how Larry is already apologising and it's not even a month ?week? into his term. I like him though, he's trying to be honest and not a politician (yet)

Nov. 27th, 2002 07:08 pm (UTC)
I read a little later today that they're calling it a "plebiscite", not a "referendum". I think this means that it'll just be something like an Opinion Poll...

Presumably because A) they won't have to spend the money on a referendum which is run like an election, but more likely B) if it's not an official referendum, they can fudge the results any way they want and do anything they want.
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