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Some random observations about the US Election from a Canadian:

  1. I've been seeing pro-Kerry and pro-Bush posts side-by-side in my Friends view... which is amusing in and of itself. I also can't click two links on the internet without running face first into elections talk.

    What I find most fascinating though is that the reasonable to above-average intelligent people are most likely Kerry supporters. The very stupidest people are Bush supporters (sit down and have a cup of not-surprise).

    But I've noticed that the very smartest people I know are also Bush supporters. There are exceptions to this, of course, but I thought this was an interesting trend.

  2. I'm not understanding something. I've seen people writing about immigrating to Canada if [whoever] wins.

    1. That means that the party you're supporting gets even less support in the next election and the ones you _didn't_ want in the White House have a higher likelihood of actually being there if you leave. Yes? No?

    2. Canadian politics, economy, etc., etc. are so closely tied to the Americans that whoever comes into power does affect us. And yet, we, Canadians, don't get a vote in the US elections. I'm not frustrated or upset that I couldn't vote today. I'm just noting that, as a matter of fact, I don't get a say in something that could affect me.

      Given the chance, why would you volunteer to walk away and sit idly by to watch whoever it is fuck it all up for everyone (including Canada)? Because, y'know, if WMD are let loose around here, we share the same air and general threespace.

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fazia
Nov. 4th, 2004 07:04 pm (UTC)
"That means that the party you're supporting gets even less support in the next election and the ones you _didn't_ want in the White House have a higher likelihood of actually being there if you leave. Yes? No?"

Yes - I've tried to point this out to people who don't seem to remember that artists, academics and other progressive people FLED countries like Iran and that often all that's left is a conservative society. I've told people before that the only reason California/Seattle is so progressive/liberal compared to places like Texas is because everybody who was progressive or liberal MOVED there and AWAY from otehr areas.

But then, I can't blame them. People flee a sinking ship. Country or city. Small town or village. It doesn't matter. Refuees come from places where they see no hope, and no future. Places where they've felt that they've long been sliding down a slope towards the bottom.

Many Americans feel like we're in the midst of a social war, with religious conservatives on one end and progressive/iberal on the other. The religious conservatives are winning, and that's a big deal to people whose lives are affected by that social atmosphere. There are also those Americans who feel that we're just taking the slow train behind the Soviet Union in our fall from grace at the top of the world. Who wants to stick around if you know it's hopeless, and the future awaits elsewhere?

"Given the chance, why would you volunteer to walk away and sit idly by to watch whoever it is fuck it all up for everyone (including Canada)?"

Well, I don't think we're at this point yet - but I would walk away (and everybody else be damned) before the Iron curtain came down, the Ayatolah came to power, or Shariah law was instituted, had it been another time or place. There are Americans (particularly GLBT americans whose lives are the stuff of negative legislation despite years of social change and the devestation of AIDS during the 80's) who feel they *are* at that point already. I can't blame them.
bride
Nov. 4th, 2004 11:07 pm (UTC)
but I would walk away (and everybody else be damned) before the Iron curtain came down, the Ayatolah came to power, or Shariah law was instituted, had it been another time or place.

I hear ya. My parents (and I think your parents) did just that.

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