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Chinese Kinship Titles II

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More Chinese kinship titles. Continued from here.

Step Family

(jì) means "afterwards" or "subsequent".

  • 繼父 (jì fù) or 後爹 (hòu diē) stepfather.
  • 繼母 (jì mǔ) or 後母 (hòu mǔ) stepmother.
  • 繼兄 (jì xiōng) step elder brother.
  • 繼姐 (jì jiě) step elder sister.
  • 繼弟 (jì dì) step younger brother.
  • 繼妹 (jì mèi) step younger sister.
Subsequent Wives

  • 繼配 (jì pèi) second wife (taken after the death of one's first wife).
  • 姨太太 (yí tài tai) second wife (taken before the death of one's first wife; concubine). You might notice that it's the same used to refer to a woman's sister from outside of the immediate family. A man's wives were considered to have a sister-ish relationship whether they were actually sisters or not.

Foster/Adoptive Family

(yǎng) is "to provide for", "to raise", "to support" with the connotation "to acquire".

  • 養父 (yǎng fù) foster father.
  • 養母 (yǎng mǔ) foster mother.
  • 養女 (yǎng nǚ) foster daughter.
  • 養子 (yǎng zǐ) foster son.
  • 養兄 (yǎng xiōng) foster elder brother.
  • 養姐 (yǎng jiě) foster elder sister.
  • 養弟 (yǎng dì) foster younger brother.
  • 養妹 (yǎng mèi) foster younger sister.

Nominal Kinship (Godparents)

  • 干爹 (gān diē) godfather [ (diē) and (niáng) are archaic forms of "father" and "mother"].
  • 干娘 (gān niáng), 干媽 (gān mā) godmother.

In-Laws in General

  • 親家 (qīn jiā) parents of one's daughter-in-law or son-in-law; relative by marriage.
  • 親家公 (qīn jiā gōng) child's spouse's father
  • 親家母 (qīn jiā mǔ) child's spouse's mother
  • 親家太爺 (qīn jiā tài yé) child's spouse's grandfather
  • 親家太奶奶 (qīn jiā tài nǎi nǎi) child's spouse's grandmother

In-Laws (source speaker is male)

  • 岳父 (yuè fù) wife's father; father-in-law.
  • 岳母 (yuè mǔ) wife's mother; mother-in-law.
  • 丈人 (zhàng rén) wife's father; father-in-law — not to be confused with 丈夫 (zhàng fū) which means "husband".
  • 丈母 (zhàng mǔ) wife's mother; mother-in-law.
  • 大舅子 (dà jiù zi) wife's elder brother; brother-in-law.
  • 大姨子 (dà yí zi) wife's elder sister; sister-in-law.
  • 小舅子 (xiǎo jiù zi) wife's younger brother; brother-in-law.
  • 小姨子 (xiǎo yí zǐ) wife's younger sister; sister-in-law.

In-Laws (source speaker is female)

  • 家公 (jiā gōng) husband's father; father-in-law
  • 家婆 (jiā pó) husband's mother; mother-in-law.

    To me, this pair sounds right in Cantonese, but not in Mandarin. I'm not sure if that's because they're incorrect or if it's just that I'm not used to hearing this in Mandarin. I call his mother "" (Ma), so I wouldn't really know.

  • 公公 (gōng gong) husband's father; father-in-law
  • 婆婆 (pó po) husband's mother; mother-in-law
  • 大伯子 (dà bó zi) husband's elder brother; brother-in-law.
  • 大姑子 (dà gū zi) husband's elder sister; sister-in-law.
  • 小叔子 (xiǎo shū zǐ) husband's younger brother; brother-in-law.
  • 小姑子 (xiǎo gū zi) husband's younger sister; sister-in-law.

In-Laws (common to source male or female speakers)

  • 嫂嫂 (sǎo sǎo) elder brother's wife, sister-in-law
  • 姐夫 (jiě fū) elder sister's husband, brother-in-law
  • 弟妹 (dì mèi) younger brother's wife, sister-in-law. This one is interesting; it literally translates as "little brother's little sister". Husband and wife relationships have traditionally been thought of as having an element of a sibling relationship because they're in the same generation. Traditionally, in arranged marriages, a wife will be one, two, four or five years younger than the husband (they usually never choose spouses that are three years apart). But her kinship title is always "little brother's little sister" even if she is older than he is.
  • 妹夫 (mèi fū) younger sister's husband, brother-in-law

I said: And there are slight discrepancies between Cantonese and Mandarin; the terms for "mother-in-law", "maternal grandmother" and "paternal grandmother" can get really confusing between the two dialects. =)

 MandarinCantonese
Paternal Grandmother 奶奶 (nǎi nǎi) 傌傌 (mà mà) or 阿傌 (a mà)
Maternal Grandmother 外婆 (wài pó) 婆婆 (pó pó)
Husband's Mother 婆婆 (pó pó) 奶奶 (nǎi nǎi)

Funny story:

My Brother-in-Law is my Husband's younger brother. He wanted to thank me on one occassion and wanted to say it in Chinese (just to be cute I guess, because we usually speak English with each other), but didn't quite know how to refer to me in Chinese. To him, it should be 謝謝大嫂 (xiè xiè dà sǎo).

So, he asks his girlfriend what she calls her older sister. He didn't explain to her why he wanted to know, so she didn't have the context to tell him what he should have said. He proceeds to say to me: 謝謝阿姐 (xiè xiè ā jiě).

BWAHAHAHA!!! XD ALL WRONG. XD =D But it was terribly cute...

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axiem
Mar. 20th, 2005 02:41 am (UTC)
Oo! Yay! More! :)
incognita
Mar. 20th, 2005 04:08 am (UTC)
I would just like to say that I love that ever since I got my miniMac I've been able to see your Chinese characters for the first time :D :D :D :D
bride
Mar. 20th, 2005 04:46 am (UTC)
Woohoo!!! =D
guiny
Mar. 20th, 2005 04:42 am (UTC)
Wow. I may have to re-read this over a hundred times starting today so I could very well remember all the titles. I'm only familiar with those whom I have relatives to call...other than that...everything else is so confusing already.
drsaddam
Mar. 20th, 2005 04:59 am (UTC)
Thank you, Jade! I've added this to my "memories."

Then again, I may end up marrying someone Latin instead and will have to learn these all over again. :p
jessie_l
Mar. 20th, 2005 06:44 am (UTC)
haha,though i'm chinese,sometimes i just feel puzzled with so complicated relations...it's funny to hear a boy call an old man"哥哥“,but it really happens in some large families.
bride
Mar. 20th, 2005 06:50 am (UTC)
I know! My husband has a 舅公 who is our age and I met another branch of my family about ten years ago which resulted in discovering that I was a 表姨婆 at the ripe old age of 20!! =D =D
jessie_l
Mar. 20th, 2005 07:16 am (UTC)
hmm...i'm already a 姑姑 of a litte boy,he's 2,i'm only 18...and my mum is two girls' 姥姥(外婆),the two kids have 3 姥姥!
bride
Mar. 20th, 2005 06:53 pm (UTC)
That's so cute! =D
axiem
Mar. 20th, 2005 06:47 am (UTC)
I just now noticed this:

In Japanese, the word "daijoubu", written "大丈夫" means "okay" or "fine". That first character means "big" (in both Japanese and Chinese, I am led to believe). The last is the word for (one's own) husband, "otto". The middle one in Japanese means "length" or "measure".

So apparently being okay means having a big husband in Chinese, and having a big-length husband in Japanese.

...just thought I'd share, though I imagine this has been pointed out to you before :)
bride
Mar. 20th, 2005 06:56 am (UTC)
In Chinese, 大丈夫 means "a real gentleman" or "a true gentleman" (in an honourable sense). The notion of "husband" isn't really in that expression and I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean "big husband".
axiem
Mar. 20th, 2005 07:34 am (UTC)
Hm, odd. I'm vaguely curious at why there's been that semantic drift. (Between gentleman and being okay...)

Of course, my interpretation of the Japanese is as a non-native speaker who has far too much fun looking through kanji dictionaries for odd readings for things :) Though it *has* helped me remember things, by making odd connections like that.
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bride
Mar. 20th, 2005 06:49 pm (UTC)
*hee* No problem =)

Re: the icon

Y'know, I didn't think I was dumb enough to delete the original image after I made the icon, but apparently I am that dumb. I'll have to scan it again... =P
aliasa
Mar. 20th, 2005 04:05 pm (UTC)
Oho. Thanks! Must add to memories! :)
snowbitch
Mar. 20th, 2006 03:48 pm (UTC)
Couldn't read your chinese words (no chinese software installed)=) but thought to leave a comment that I have a grand niece who is just 11 years younger than me. Her mom (my cousin's daughter and my niece) is 7 years older than me.

My niece (although older than me) insist on calling me "ah yi" (cantonese dialect) and her daughter calls me "yi poh". Thank goodness they live in Hong Kong and I only see them once in a blue moon.

But I am glad I am a chinese...
bride
Mar. 20th, 2006 03:57 pm (UTC)
I'm a yi-poh too! I was a yi-poh at 14 XD They shortened it to just poh-poh when the baby was first starting to talk and she now still calls me poh-poh. I LOVE being called that in public and watching the shocked reactions of the people who didn't know =D

My husband has a kow-gong who is our age (like kow-fu but one generation up). His maternal grandmother's youngest brother was born when his great-grandfather was about 60.
(Anonymous)
Mar. 21st, 2006 12:48 am (UTC)
This is something that I will miss when I leave Malaysia. My FH has a very small family that he keeps in touch with!

Sometimes I am glad I am a Chinese and still keeps to the traditions/ cultural stuffs. However, this morning, I am glad I am moving away from all these ....

Have a good day.
snowbitch
Mar. 21st, 2006 12:50 am (UTC)
Sorry! That was me in the earlier post. But I forgot to log in before i replied!

Gomen nasai!
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